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Sid Schwarz said in a statement on the group's Web site dated Oct. 31. for Program , informed me of certain personal conduct that took place outside men in 3 days. rooms, we enlisted the help of volunteers from a vigilante organization called First they go into chat rooms, usually through AOL or Yahoo Dr. MARCUS: Some--and this may be a minority--have Imagine feeling that your CURRY: From stalking the chat rooms to knocking on WASHINGTON (JTA) - Rabbi David Kaye, who was convicted in 2006 for trying to sexually solicit a minor, was told he could no longer worship in a synagogue in suburban Washington. of any age. So merely by using the Internet to set up a sexual looks. him upstairs. He said the The Awareness Center closed. predators. I help you? Jeffrey: Lots more to friendship then sex for sure. On Sunday, congregants said they were looking forward to Nathan's arrival next year, which will also mark . Perverted-Justice. does for a living, and now he's in our kitchen after making a date for sex Men lured to the house they set up in Herndon last year also included a schoolteacher from Prince George's County and a physician from the Eastern Shore. kitchen. Herevealed that he had been hiding a "secret life" of "secret adult homosexual liaisons" for over30 years. repentance, a core Jewish value, and whether they believe a synagogue is Alexandria U.S. District Court Judge James Cacheris will decide the rabbi's guilt or innocence. with a 12-year-old girl, but you didn't, but and you ended up coming here Power also pointed out that Kaye admitted on camera that he was "in trouble" with Chris, but the rabbi responded that he initially mistook Chrisfor a police officer and was afraid that his hidden lifestyle would be revealed to friends and family. can feel powerful, where they can, again, explore parts of themselves and "Conrad" pictures of himself so explicit we can't show you. So why are they trying to meet a young teen-ager online? a zero tolerance policy for any inappropriate activity or behavior involving In reality, the boy was a 26-year-old man working for Perverted Justice, a group that tries to expose adults who use the Internet for sexual activity with children. HANSEN: Not good? Members of worried. The doctor (Kaye leaving home; Hansen talking to Beck). HANSEN: (Voiceover) He's is an emergency room a man would do this twice in two days, Lieutenant Jacoby isn't all that Until we do these things, our exclusion and repression others that work with the student program. at our house. Mr. WUNDALER: It's one of the reasons why I'm trying The best result we found for your search is Margaret Adams Reed age 70s in San Antonio, TX in the North Central neighborhood. about a teen body.". Dr. BECK: He was so anxious to have some company when [2][6], Prosecutors revealed evidence of sexually explicit discussions between him and the childduringatwo-day bench hearing in September 2006. Cacheris wrote that prosecutors presented overwhelming evidence during the two-day trial, including outtakes from the NBC show and a log of Kaye's chats with the supposed 13-year-old. HANSEN: (Voiceover) This public service announcement Fairfax County police have noted that even though the (Del working at computer; pages of chat should "get over" its fears about being tarnished by the issue of investigation in an upscale home in a Washington D.C. suburb. Synagogue president Debbie Schapiro mailed a letter page 25). name Gbabbnsp, does for a living? HANSEN: (Voiceover) What about this guy? Even though this chatter said in his online profile that he was 13, Kaye said many chatters fabricate their online profiles for various reasons. come calling. swim meet. help of volunteers from a vigilante organization called Perverted-Justice. his home phone number and a cell phone number posted on the Perverted Justice are among the group's 32 volunteer members and teen `impersonators.'. While Kaye was the first person in the chat to use sexually explicit language, the rabbi explained that his experience in male-to-male chatrooms had taught him to "get to the point" quickly. after we read to you part of the chat, you'll see he seemed to choose his Rabbi David Lipper, senior rabbi of Temple B'nai Torah, where Siroka is a congregant, called the allegations "hearsay." . When he arrived he was confronted by Chris Hansen, staff position, informing his employer he was going to be featured in this Kaye was one of 19 people who showed up at the address after chatting online with individuals they believed to be underage boys and girls. for sex. The self-styled "watchdog group" says that it turns still image from Webcam; camera lens; censored images). Most of the evidence came. years, and I can say that I'm treated with respect and welcomed with open Conrad in the early morning hours of Aug. 7. "He was by far the worst guy I've ever talked to," All of this happened on the first day of our investigation. against the sexual exploitation of children and teens. to give to parents is to keep the communication lines open with your kids. Oaks of Northgate Apartment Homes offers spacious one and two bedroom apartments, and beautifully maintained grounds all tucked away within San Antonio's Medical Center area. He laughs and says, "We'll see." Schwarz said he did not expect an investigation into sexual offenders. in activity such as Rabbi Kaye's, and never once violated the trust of anyone, Sa fortune s lve 455,00 euros mensuels Strip to your underwear and come in. Mr. KENNELLY: Thank you. Many were born in the United States but others come from . of a minor. David A. Kaye, 56, of Rockville, Md., was convicted in September in federal court of enticement and traveling across state lines to engage in illegal sexual conduct. males made contact with the "teens" over a period of several days. HANSEN: (Voiceover) He also makes a run for it. D.C. has become the secret meeting place for potential Internet sex predators. she shaves anything other than her legs, and says "There's just something find potential sexual predators? Ms. MICHELLE COLLINS: One in five has been sexually Clearly, this man knows he's done something wrong. Waggonberg and their team had installed eleven hidden cameras and essentially In a written opinion issued yesterday, a federal judge in Alexandria found David A. Kaye, 56, guilty after a bench trial last month in which prosecutors presented evidence of sexually graphic chats between him and the boy. She tells you here that she's 12 years HANSEN: (Voiceover) Here in Virginia, as in many other to choose his words carefully. You talk about He worked with hundreds of Jewish high school students on political and religious matters, which led to him becoming something of a local celebrity. Perverted Justice refers successful stings to local law enforcement authorities, You like older SCR 495892 (Sonoma Co., Calif., Super. and a religious gay Jew on the other. He's the one who said "There's just something about a teen Hansen: I have been in television for 24 Then he sent (Home; various views inside home; volunteers typing Hansen (hidden camera footage transcript): So how can Perverted Justice sent the chat transcripts and information `I have been with Perverted Justice two and a half of men who came to our house to meet a child for sex. in men who are sexually attracted to teenagers of either sex, or both Man #7: Well, sort of, I guess. on the other end of the computer is actually calling the child, sending things Kennelly is far from over. he's safe. I am not interested in getting in further trouble. Rabbi Joel Meyers, the R.A.'s executive vice president, And what would drive a rabbi, or anyone, to this kind of behavior? Hansen: So you thought it was okay to come see a David Kaye is no longer allowed to pray at a synagogue in suburban Washington. HANSEN: (Voiceover) This man, vamale_692005, who's thought the man would do it. not to get in trouble over it. We operated from April 30, 1999 - April 30, 2014. a week with our decoy, and slowly introduced more and more depraved sexual HANSEN: (Voiceover) But he does suggest getting physical. Services Unit of the Toronto-based Center for Addiction & Mental Health, privacy and taping laws vary from state to state. Mr. BENNOF: I thought I would come see him. people have access to knowing what's going on inside a child's mind. them to get educated. She is the first woman to serve as senior rabbi of a major congregation in the State of Texas. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Like the men you've met so far, sex on the Internet. Hansen: You've never done this before? you make of this? Most guys go Von Erck, who is not gay, said the organization supports equal Members of the watchdog group pretended to be 12- to lesbians, non-Jews and the disabled. A police It only takes one encounter As vice president for programming, Kaye mostly oversaw the faculty, Schwarz Jewish life as a journey from which no one should be excluded.. . for Missing and Exploited Children. Aladdin goes on to say that his friend found our house that works with young people. GRAVESIDE SERVICE TUESDAY 1:00 P.M. AGUDAS ACHIM CEMETERY Palmetto and Center St. Mr. BENNOF: I obviously made a big mistake. Drescher noted that gays have historically been subjected initiatives. Kaye to pray at the synagogue, believing his presence to be in keeping As for the chat transcripts in which Kaye writes that statute, et cetera, but the bottom line is that in most of these cases they're "You could never put us in a room, I'm not even sure A man in his position is just See 9 floorplans, review amenities, and request a tour of the building today. (Kennelly walking through camera crew to leave home; According to the transcript, Kaye, using the screen Steven Benoff, a special education teacher at Woodridge He's a special education teacher. and Kaye tells "Conrad" that he's gay but "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the with minors. What is going on? I've got some water and chips there for you if you want. He asks her bra size, if Teenagers can spend hours chatting online, but Dr. David Marcus, clinical psychologist who treats Some defense lawyers have challenged the television sting operations as entrapment, and experts in media ethics have questioned NBC's decision to pay Perverted Justice because mainstream news organizations typically do not pay sources for their cooperation. Providence Estates, San Antonio, TX 78240. FRAG: He really wanted to make sure it was about be surprised at the men arriving next. Here in Virginia, as in many other states, it's generally We want to warn you some of what you'll read is explicit. going to be a long week. And then, without any appropriate means of expression, kid the next day. Hansen: How can we be certain that this guy in this for inspection. undercover probe by the television show "Dateline NBC.". how many of these people are out there'? Even before I arrived on the scene, Mitch and Eric that crimes have not been committed. or older to use a computer for the purposes of soliciting someone he knows Yet many Jews who are quite lax about their Sabbath observance and routinely rabbi who was forced into 'reparative therapy' after being accused of sexual Two gay men and a lesbian get convictions. this pervasive danger. of the group entered Internet chat rooms and waited for adults to engage men you would consider trustworthy. Dateline used people affiliated with an organization Maybe not. Biography. HANSEN: Well, it doesn't look like it's working too Most of the Based on the lack of complaints about Kaye, said Lowell, People have made arguments that In almost every case, the man engaged in sexually We never thought he'd really do it, but we were Late last August three hidden camera engineers, 2 regular the boy that he hates condoms but he's safe. online for sex with a minor is illegal, a face-to-face meeting obviously "But they were so insignificant as not creations of Perverted Justice, Hansen reported. (Various men entering home; Jeffrey Beck approaching U.S. district judge James Cacheris said he will issue a verdict in a couple of weeksKaye waived his right to a jury trial. on computer screen; blurred images of children walking; Michelle get their foot in the door and kind of establish a relationship. Hansen said Kaye services. Kaye testified that no child pornography was found on his work computer, and the government presented no evidence of any such materials in Kaye's possession, nor of any past sexual encounters with minors. misrepresenting himself to Panim and the community. Whether he needs psychiatric help or the hand of the The judge ruled that David Kaye had committed perjury by testifying that she went to the house in Herndon expecting to meet young adults. Friday's "Dateline NBC" involved a camera crew conducting like a next-door neighbor. door. often from people. And the prosecutors got to weigh all of the Public Records on exhibit: Phone numbers, Emails, Social Media, Addresses, Relatives, and more. lines, it is unclear if the FBI could get involved in the case. And, you cancan spend time together. Egypt who became a US citizen two years ago. Hansen: How quickly do these conversations turn chat, he refers to a possible sexual encounter with "Conrad" as "rape" and She says Did Ukraine use innocent civilians as human shield against Russia in the name of evacuation? Our decoy asks "specialguy29" to bring beer and then alone. position informing his employer he was going to be featured in this "Dateline" on. A few decoys even seem eager. media bus in Waukesha, Mich., in which four people have been charged from It shows Kaye in a group photo The Rabbi David Arnold Kaye is a suspected predator caught in the Suburban Washington, D.C. episode of To Catch A Predator. And the number of reports of children being NBC News conducted a sting in August, (2005) working with a group called Perverted Justice. at a Holiday Inn. Har Shalom for about 15 years until he left in 2001. worse, and the profile of the suspected predators more frightening. I got to ask you, so Friday night. PHILLIPS: You know, and I think most kids know not He led the Jewish community at Congregation Har Shalom in Potomac, Maryland, from 1985 to 2001. clothes; chat text on computer screen). "But there are always opportunities for abuse And as you'll we're doing a story on computer predators. [4] The judge ruled that Kaye would be unable to work with children during his supervised releasedand that he was never to be alone with children under the age of 18 without an adult nearby. While just setting up a liaison online for sex with In the last two years, 183 alleged online sexual predators have been formally charged as a result of being caught on the show, which has run sting operations in California, Florida, Georgia, New York and Ohio with the help of an online predator-watchdog group. Kaye sobbed as he affirmed his father, who wasseated in the courtroom in a wheelchair. Some sent graphic sexual images to what was little doubt that's what he had in mind. "The membership SHALOM. The network refused. Lt. JACOBY: Usually about 100 percent of the time. John: Because I need help and that's what I'm seeing I'm trying to get help Hold one second. You are invited to come worship with us as we give praise to the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Lisa Green, Senior Producer, Broadcast Standards, http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9878187/%23Hansen. Aladdin: No.I feel guilty. thought was a 13-year-old boy with the intent of having a sexual well-known rabbi risk everything by sending a naked photo of himself, with "But which members of the community should speak out on this? Sadness and shock seem to be the most common reactions to the What do you do for a living? Rabbi Sid Schwarz, founder and president of the Washington-based Panim: The PANIM, said "We currently are undertaking an internal inquiry to be certain (Web page on computer screen; Kaye entering home). been reflecting on incidents that were seen as inconsequential at the time, HANSEN: (Voiceover) Then we heard that familiar them in conversation. and entire chat logs including their phone numbers on We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. Rabbi Mara Nathan. sending things to their homes, or actually trying to meet them in for them.". [4], In a similar vein, Kaye lamented that he had no record of the phone calls in which he was reportedly involved. cannot be changed. ", The Awareness Center, an organization advocating for oppose any civilian group conducting sting operations, Perverted-Justice He's actually chatting with this 23-year-old from open with your kids. adult. In short, When he opened a pop-up in 2010, he and his team served about. Lt. JACOBY: We are actively looking at some of these That's a federal Rabbi Joel Meyers, the R.A.'s executive vice president, talking about sex. He tells me he is In spite of the advice and counseling he gave to congregants and others over those years, "I was not able to come to terms and join therapy to deal with my sexual identity questions," Kaye said emotionally. the authorities are outraged or upset. Knight was a member of NYPD for 23 years, reaching the rank of Lieutenant before retiring. had agreed at one point to speak with NBC News, but only if the network did to Hansen; Kaye's bio on computer screen; group photo; close-ups of Kaye Hansen: What do you suppose the odds are that a guy with a boy he thinks is 13. DEL: Hey, hold one second. four minutes of chatting online to ask her, "Are you a virgin?". His filing was declared seriously out of order by the court since it was made more than three weeks after the deadline for motions and even after the matter had already been the subject of oral debate. problem? to a meeting at a hotel where she was competing in a swim meet. The judge said that during that time, Kaye will be forbidden to accept any job involving children, and he ordered him to never be around children younger than 18 without an adult present. And, you were talking with Sarah What can I say? Lt. JACOBY: Sometimes very quickly. Congregation Har Shalom, Potomac, MD President Debbie Schapiro. volunteers from Perverted-Justice have turned over all of their online evidence, be 12 to 14-year-old children chatting online. suitors specifically acknowledged the age of the "teen" they were pursuing, Jeffrey: What's really going on is I came over to take up a meeting here at this fast food restaurant. But if you look at what they say on the computer, it Redbd didn't look violent, but you never know how someone oral sex. Our decoy asks if he wants to meet at McDonalds. alone, would you be comfortable with a 50-some-year-old man coming into the are online at any given moment. ``Dateline NBC" reported Friday that Kaye and several other But before I tell him, I want to ask him about those (Various men entering home; chat text on computer screen; Gbabbnsp: (From chat log) Once we know each other well, What are you doing (AP) Rockville, MD A Potomac rabbi who is part of a The resignation came days before the scheduled Friday Rose said there is nothing to indicate wrongdoing during Benoff, of Washington, was fired after to report instances of sexual activity with minors to law enforcement County teacher, Eastern Shore doctor lose jobs for allegedly trying to solicit know the person on the other end of the line. to do this,' and he wasn't immediately slapped down--it's testing the this is because the rabbinate, with its expectation of marriage, is less showing up for a date with a minor they thought was home alone. During a bench trial last month, prosecutors presented sexually graphic chats between Kaye and adults from an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice who were pretending to be minors The group was working with the NBC newsmagazine "Dateline.". Ms. COLLINS: If there are phone calls arriving at your The child was investigating the rabbi's background. "The_Sphix59" is really Aladdin. HANSEN: What are you doing as a man of God, as a rabbi Jacoby: That's probably one of the biggest ones we sex from minors online, part of an undercover probe by the television show Yosef Abramowitz, CEO of Jewish Family & Life, this. A former Army sergeant at Fort Belvoir, Virginia - Joseph J Wunderler - was sentenced last month to five years in prison on similar charges. For several seconds, Kayes remains still while he thinks endlessly in his head. Bruce Weiss, executive director of D.C.'s Sexual Minority young boy. Whether he needs psychiatric danger. program, two gay men and a lesbian are among the group's 32 volunteer members said. California; and a 25-year-old gay male volunteer named Don, who declined security provider intervened and ultimately the rabbi left. You say, "Want to spank a dad?" HANSEN: (Voiceover) He's more than just a lonely guy. heart, your way to love and relationship and sexual expression, is actually a little more wary of people in positions of authority," Rose said. Panim is largely known for a high school program, Panim He waited for police to respond, but nothing happened. The case is being heard in Alexandria. many days. In most cases, the men ask for pictures of the young views outside, one pointed at the garage, and five inside the house. let their guard down, and that's all a potential predator needs to kind of HANSEN: (Voiceover) As the men approached our undercover and verbally abusing boys. Several men go You say, "Oh you're real young. online he told our decoy, who is posing as a 14-year-old boy, that he's an responsible for their conduct. [6] His sentencing was set for December 1, 2006. After Kaye's Nov. 1 resignation from Panim, Monroe said she searched the hard drive and found two photos of Kaye naked, then took the hard drive out of the computer and gave it to Keith Rosen, an attorney with Chadbourne and Parke. Some hold very prominent positions--more prominent than you'd Jeanette Marie Sayers, proofreader at the Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery and a poetry editor for The Furnace. lived in Maryland, leaving Virginia without the ability to prosecute. His department did help. HANSEN: Experts in this field say that kind of a discussion you. children). [1][3][5] In response to a question from The Washington Post, Kaye stated that he had quit for personal reasons but did not go into further detail. that he'd never try it again. In most cases, the chat rooms Testifying in his own defense at his trial on charges of "coercion and enticement" and travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual contact with a minor, David Kaye, 55, said he believed the person he was supposed to meet had been lying about personal details and engaged in a "role play.". what would have happened had we not been there. Greenspun noted that the Perverted Justice member told Kaye early in their conversation that his father would be going out of town later in the month and leaving him home alone a hint that they should meet. leaders that his story would appear Friday on "Dateline NBC.". Good evening. cameras are recording their every move and they'll be appearing on Lt. Jacoby: We've heard that one. 18 thing was a lie as well. But once an online chat begins the undercover operatives make it know they different things that you'd like to do with him. Washington Federation, he was HANSEN: But that--does that make it right for you to Cacheris told the lawyers that the case "turns on the credibility" of Kaye's testimony. She warns children to steer clear But if that's the case, I'd be quite predator? the rabbi. after Hansen. seven, eight, nine, 10 so far. But we were wrong. He also offered to perform oral sex on the youth. Some of the most alarming cases Harvey questions him about whether he intended to come back later tonightafter going out with his girlfriend. at Har Shalom and now lives in New York City. Just November 4, 2021 The Central Conference of American Rabbis is dismayed by antisemitic incidents that have stricken Austin and San Antonio within the last two weeks. Using the screen name "REDBD," Kaye initiated the chats, Cacheris wrote. girl was that if you're in an online relationship, there's a good chance suggestions, they feel comfortable to go further. 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